Tulpa.info - tulpa-research

should post it on the source thread

I figure such a thing might best be put into this channel. Someone has produced a survey regarding the possibility of using other terms for non-traumagenic systems. If you all could give your input, it would be appreciated. https://shaunanderson.typeform.com/to/YZI4WG Share it around if you can.

"Tulpa as a Personality" Questionnaire is now open (you need to have at least one tulpa): https://forms.gle/WGNcASQZne8mQii88

"Tulpa as a Personality" Questionnaire

Please fill out this form ONLY if you have at least one vocal tulpa (able to tell you how to answer or answering themselves). Most of the questions are asked from the tulpa's perspective. If you have several systemmates please pick one answer that's most relevant to your sys...

I'm interested to hear about how the results of this poll relate to a larger topic if there is any.

2:54 AM

I wouldn't be opposed to researching the bejeezus out of this, but I have no background in psychology as an engineering major.

you don't need to as long as you understand the principles of statistics, which you should

3:32 AM

and how to ask the right questions

the background in psychology certainly helps. Otherwise it becomes very difficult to get the resources and credentials necessary to actually organize legit studies that people will take you seriously on

I'm conducting an experiment to see if the "Tulpa Parallel Processing Test v1.0" is effective at measuring Parallel Processing ability. Feel free to participate even if you don't believe in Parallel Processing or don't have a Tulpa. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-tulpa-parallel-processing-test-v1-0-experiment (edited)

Tulpa Parallel Processing Test v1.0 Experiment

I'm curious about Parallel Processing and I'm going through a phase where I want to try and see if achieving Parallel Processing is possible. I'm very skeptical towards this process, so I'm interested

Questionable not making that its own thread honestly

5:44 PM

I would recommend it, I think.

5:44 PM

Just link back to the original thread

Made it its own thread

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Enneagram personality survey https://community.tulpa.info/thread-survey-enneagram-personality-survey?pid=266270#pid266270

Enneagram Personality Survey

(Indigo posted a GD thread on this topic, but we wanted to make a survey on it to really see the results. If this survey ends by the time you find it, you can post your types in this thread) This is a

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I have some serious concerns with the above - your thread is telling people to research Enneagram, and your links go to the same website where they sell the $12 test! They aren't peer-reviewed or scientific or reputable in the least. And moreover you're telling people not to take the test but rather pick one of the nine based off what they think of themselves! Even though the test is essentially bullshit, I'm pretty confident most people won't pick the type that the test would otherwise reflect.

7:33 PM

The core of the issue here is not that the test is flawed, but rather how you’re presenting it. At minimum you should amend the post to reflect the fact that tests like Enneagram or MBTI are not scientific in the least. Moreover you should point to “research” that isn’t on the Enneagram mass-market website.

The actual test linked in the post is a free one

I don't think the test is meant to be taken too seriously either... it's just collecting basic statistics

Yeah, and of course it's not scientific, nobody's claiming that it is (edited)

7:57 PM

it's nine descriptions

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find the one that best fits you

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done

8:00 PM

then we examine which descriptions are most common

Maybe this https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/wiki/nobillis_library

reddit: the front page of the internet

r/Tulpas: Ever wondered what it would be like to have a mental companion who can think and act on their own? That's what a tulpa is. (Yes, it's a …

This one is fake as far as I know

the author has many issues but that doesn't mean it's "fake"

10:54 PM

it's still a paper full of content that was accepted by a journal, if a rather low-quality one

bad != fake

It's fake because Ford admitted that it's fake. Also, journals like this one can accept even a tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise as a scientific paper.

fake in what way? The survey results? I highly doubt that. They weren't that lazy.

I was summoned here because I received direct admissions from Ford/Jade on multiple occasions that all "research" they conducted, including this published study, was entirely fabricated. They were attempted to push a narrative of tulpas being universally good and were willing to falsify research to that end.

11:09 PM

The data in anything they published should be considered 100% fake.

Oh

11:11 PM

Well then

11:11 PM

That's kinda bs

it meshes pretty closely with the data from the /r/tulpas census but if you say so

There's an r/tulpas?

There is.

Is it any good?

Nope

I dont go there often but most times its just ppl bloging about their tulpas

~~so just like .info then?~~

I dont use .info

Blogging like research or blogging like on youtube?

But sometimes they have rly THONKY posts

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11:26 PM

Sometimes I feel like r/tulpas is suceptible to a younger audience so some times it can be a bit more shit

the reddit is wayyy worse and pretty dead

11:27 PM

people who saw a greentext story or a creepypasta and now wanna know if tulpas are magic

.# #lounge

Cyber#0095 Failed finding a definition for that tag.

Lol what happened there?

11:29 PM

but yes

The research often cited by a large part of the community is cited with effort to prove a point rather than to study or do general research. Be generally skeptical of any and all cited studies in this community, as they are almost always flawed in very significant ways, used in misleading ways, or otherwise have reasons they cannot be solidly trusted. Take your time to do what you should do when it comes to any science. Bunker down and challenge any claims, look for other opinions on the topic, and generally make sure that you have no angle to attack or reason to disbelieve a point of view before you accept something as true or not. To not do so will lead you to trusting a lot of very very questionable stuff.

12:41 AM

And always be sure to trust experts and do your research, "common sense" often is very bad and if an established expert in quantum mechanics says "X" but you just don't really feel like "X" could be true, then X is probably true regardless.

Generally speaking this applies to any research

I remember Jade publicly and proudly admit to being an "activist scientist"

And any sources

It's a perversion of science to say anything like that, and you can go dig a hole and jump in it if you are doing science with that aim.

Even if Jade's work was 100% legit, I wouldn't want to spread her stuff anyway

12:44 AM

Not after the stunt she pulled

And /r/tulpas is alright. It's a far cry from what it used to be, but it's still alright.

12:47 AM

I agree with you there as well Apollo, although I also believe that the "smell" and the bunk science go hand in hand, or will tend to exist together where if you fix one the other will go away as well

12:48 AM

If you have integrity (or stability or mental health or whatever else) you do honest research, and you don't manipulate people. If you fail to have integrity (or stability or mental health or whatever else) you do bad research and you manipulate people.

Yup

I'm the least bit skeptical of Jade's claims that the research is wholly fabricated

11:51 AM

It's possible they're saying that out of spite

When they were here they said something more nuanced then wholly fabricated

11:52 AM

My take on it is it doesn't matter because they were attempting to prove a point, once you have someone who is trying to do that you discredit the science. Someone without a vendetta or a goal or an aim can redo the study.

Science replicates experiments

1:34 PM

Surveys aren't experiments

1:35 PM

They could redo the surveys if they wanted

Surveys are more of a... census, a way to find correlations and/or form a hypothesis about a person's behavior/identity/beliefs/etc and less of an experiment. Surveys are often done as part of the scientific method to gather information, but it is not science, nor can any one step of the scientific method really be referred to as 'doing science'. It also certainly isn't an exact, easily replicated, or in fact easy way to gather information. There are often inconsistencies, lies, or outright misinformed answers, which mess with the data, but you can get very close to accurate information from it depending on the audience and the experience of the people creating the survey and evaluating the survey answers and quality of the survey itself. (edited)

Due to a lack of responses, I will not be able to release a conclusion on my hypothesis. However, I can still release comparison data if enough people fill out the pre-survey. Please feel free to fill it out, you don't have to continue with the rest of the experiment if you do not wish to. Here is the link to the survey: https://forms.gle/SEJRqtgwaAkd6RW38

Pre-Experiment Survey: Parallel Processing Tool Experiment

THIS SURVEY MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE PERFORMING THE EXPERIMENT. This survey's goal is to get some background information on the participants aiding in the experiment. This survey and this experiment are NOT designed to prove if Parallel Processing is real or not, only if the...

@A long kiss goodnight what do you mean by "transgender male" and "transgender female" for trans male, do you mean someone who is female-to-male? In general it's best to just have "male/female/nonbinary(other)", and if being trans is important, another question asking "are you transgender, i.e., are you a gender other than that assigned at birth?"

"Transgender male" means the body's sex was changed to male. "Transgender female" means the body's sex was changed to female.

Frankly male/female/other and "are you trans" is more than acceptable

3:32 PM

Allowing a write-in other field probably isn't a good bet if you want statistically significant data points

the idea of a "sex change" is... pretty fallacious

3:35 PM

I think it's pandering to neurogenders at the expense of efficacy. Biological intersex is vanishingly uncommon MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }

my point is just, there's no such thing as a "sex change" you transition the attributes above in various ways, in order to live as a guy or woman or whatever meh I just found it an oddly worded survey question

3:37 PM

is my sex changed?

3:38 PM

some states you literally can't some states, you need surgery others, not to change the legal letter on your documents and whatnot

Removed the transgender male/female options for sex (edited)

That chart has the wrong chromosomes

Ye.

4:02 PM

Oof.

uh you can't change your chromosomes

4:23 PM

I think that's the idea

Not yet

But trans women can't menstruate either

I'm pretty sure it's in the context of transgender people

And I don't think you can have testicle or ovary transplants either...

4:27 PM

It doesn't make sense for it to be a chart of trans people if there's things on there that trans people can't attain

4:27 PM

So, I think they just dun goofed and put the wrong chromosomes

it's a misprint lol not in the context of trans people, it's a chapter about what a "sex" means

Text under the table would seem to indicate it's discussing biological intersex

/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa6fbOF3x8M

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4:31 PM

Text following an image or table doesn't always relate back to it

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